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Transcript of Interview with Bishop Gabino Zavala

Bishop Gabino Zavala. Bishop Zavala has been the Auxiliary Bishop for the San Gabriel Region of the Archdiocese of Los Angeles since 1994. A native of Guerrero, Mexico, Bishop Zavala grew up in Los Angeles and attended St. John’s Seminary. He is a graduate from Catholic University of America with a degree in Canon Law.

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S: For our faith tradition focus on Catholicism, we are speaking with Bishop Gabino Zavala. Bishop Zavala is Auxiliary Bishop for the San Gabriel Region of the Archdiocese of Los Angeles. Welcome, Bishop Zavala.

Bishop: Thank you.

S: We are honored to have you as a participant in this Faith in Action Online Event.

Bishop: I am very glad to be here.

S: I would like to start with you providing us with a general overview of the perspective of Catholicism on the death penalty.

Bishop: As with many of our traditions and our teachings, over the years, as we understand more, it has developed. At one time we as a Church gave the right to the state to decide on the death penalty, the question of the death penalty and so it was the state that had the right to put someone into death if they so deemed it. But I think the position of the Church now is that the guiding principle would be that every life is sacred and it doesn't matter if it's the life of an elderly person, of a child, or of a criminal, every life is sacred. And so no one has a right to take the life of another, even on behalf of the state. And so that that's what we try to promote now, that the sacredness of life is something that we have to promote.

S: Have any Catholic groups or organizations adopted an official position
on the death penalty?

Bishop: There are. There are a number of groups that really work to abolish here in the United States the death penalty and are opposed to the death penalty. One, which I am a member of, is the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops. A few years ago they came out on Good Friday with a pastoral letter where they declared, where we declared our opposition against the death penalty for the reasons that I have mentioned. There are other groups like Death Penalty Focus and religious communities as well of men and women who have consistently spoken out against the death penalty and whose efforts are at working to abolish the death penalty.

S: What is the Pope's position on the death penalty?

Bishop: The Pope has been very articulate, in fact more articulate than some people would like him to be, against the death penalty. He has come out recently in his visit…when he came to St. Louis he was very clear on speaking against the death penalty and promoting life, and saying that as a community, the death penalty diminishes us and so that we need to abolish that. He also, in his letter Evangelium Vitae, where he talks about the gospel of life and within the context of life he spoke against the death penalty. So he has been very articulate and very clear in his opposition to the death penalty.

S: What do you see as the role of the Catholic faith community, particularly Catholic faith leaders, in the movement to abolish the death penalty?

Bishop: Well I think one of the things the Catholic community needs to do, and the Catholic leaders need to do, is that we as the Church need to express wherever appropriate and wherever possible our stance against the death penalty. We need to talk about it. A lot of people don't feel comfortable in doing this but I think we need to, as the Pope says, preach the whole gospel of life. So our leaders and our church needs to, in public forums and in public situations, and with our own people as well as with others, share this gospel of life in opposition to the death penalty.

S: How can we encourage more people who are active in faith communities to become involved in the abolition movement?

Bishop: Well, I think, I think we can do this. First of all, the responsibility is ours to educate our people. There are a number of our people who do not understand what the church teaches them and sometimes it's not their fault because we have not spoken, we do not speak to it as we should. And so we need to begin by educating our people in our congregations and our parishes and our communities. We need to motivate them also, so not only that we teach them what the church teaches but how they are to live this out and how they themselves are to carry this message. We need to get them involved in our social and political processes so that we can work in abolishing the death penalty.

S: Thank you again for taking the time to share your important perspective on this issue with us.

Bishop: My pleasure.

S: Do you have any parting words of encouragement or guidance for the activists listening to this recording?

Bishop: Well I would just say to the activists that they need to know that this, for us this is a very important issue, that we feel that if we are to promote life, we need to promote it in every aspect in every situation. And that the death penalty is something that does diminish us. It is not just that we put someone to death but by putting someone to death for whatever reason we are diminishing ourselves as a community. And so that they understand that they are not alone, that there are number of people and groups that are really working very hard to try to abolish the death penalty.

S: Thank you very much again.

Bishop: You're welcome.

Two road signs near the federal prison in Terre Haute, Indiana, an execution site.
(© Scott Langley)





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